Finger Lakes 30 July 2025
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He has won four times from 5f to 6f. Won on his latest outing when 21-20fav at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month, beating Son Of Darkness by 3l. Holds an obvious chance.
He has won four times from 5f to 6f. Won on his latest outing when 21-20fav at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month, beating Son Of Darkness by 3l. Holds an obvious chance.
Has won nine races from 4f to 6f. Won on his latest outing when 6-4fav at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month, beating Smokin' Alone by 5l. Expected to mount a bold bid.
Has won nine races from 4f to 6f. Won on his latest outing when 6-4fav at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month, beating Smokin' Alone by 5l. Expected to mount a bold bid.
Has won 18 races from 5f to 1m. Finished behind Coach Bahe when fourth of 6 at 35-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Might find a few too strong.
Has won 18 races from 5f to 1m. Finished behind Coach Bahe when fourth of 6 at 35-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Might find a few too strong.
Has won ten races from 5f to 6f. Third of 6 behind Coach Bahe beaten at 15-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Timothy Murphy. No forlorn hope.
Has won ten races from 5f to 6f. Third of 6 behind Coach Bahe beaten at 15-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Timothy Murphy. No forlorn hope.
Has won 11 races from 5f to 7f. Third of 6 behind Can't Beat Me beaten 2 1/2l at 9-2 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Can go well.
Has won 11 races from 5f to 7f. Third of 6 behind Can't Beat Me beaten 2 1/2l at 9-2 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Can go well.
Winner of seven races from 4f to 6f. Finished behind Coach Bahe when fifth of 6 at 8-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Easier to side with others.
Winner of seven races from 4f to 6f. Finished behind Coach Bahe when fifth of 6 at 8-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Easier to side with others.
Winner of five races from 4f to 6f. Beaten by Coach Bahe when second of 6 at 9-20fav on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Might get into contention.
Winner of five races from 4f to 6f. Beaten by Coach Bahe when second of 6 at 9-20fav on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Might get into contention.
BAY BANK struck by three lengths over track and trip earlier in the month and can follow up. Bustin Pietre and Tommy The Torch might give him the most to think about.
Placed once in four starts. Finished 17l behind She's Grand when sixth of 8 at 16-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. This looks easier.
Placed once in four starts. Finished 17l behind She's Grand when sixth of 8 at 16-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. This looks easier.
Placed once in 15 starts. Beaten 16l behind Chicazteca at 18-1 when seventh of 8 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Unlikely to trouble her rivals.
Placed once in 15 starts. Beaten 16l behind Chicazteca at 18-1 when seventh of 8 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Unlikely to trouble her rivals.
Yet to place in five starts. Well beaten at 30-1 behind I Am Ev when last of 11 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. A lot more is needed.
Yet to place in five starts. Well beaten at 30-1 behind I Am Ev when last of 11 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. A lot more is needed.
Yet to place in three starts. Well beaten at 80-1 behind Goodys Girl when eighth of 10 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) earlier this month. Others look more appealing options.
Yet to place in three starts. Well beaten at 80-1 behind Goodys Girl when eighth of 10 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) earlier this month. Others look more appealing options.
Unplaced in all ten starts. Beaten 18l behind Cajunette at 75-1 when last of 7 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Easy enough to look elsewhere.
Unplaced in all ten starts. Beaten 18l behind Cajunette at 75-1 when last of 7 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Easy enough to look elsewhere.
Placed in seven of 18 starts. Beaten 1 1/2l by Chicazteca when second of 8 at 11-2 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Commands huge respect.
Placed in seven of 18 starts. Beaten 1 1/2l by Chicazteca when second of 8 at 11-2 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Commands huge respect.
Half-sister to Flower's Fortune, won five times at 1m. Beaten behind Second Chance at 45-1 when 10th of 16 on her racecourse debut at Saratoga over 5f (good) in July last year. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Oscar Barrera III. Worth a second look.
Half-sister to Flower's Fortune, won five times at 1m. Beaten behind Second Chance at 45-1 when 10th of 16 on her racecourse debut at Saratoga over 5f (good) in July last year. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Oscar Barrera III. Worth a second look.
CRYSTAL produced a better effort to finish second at this level last time and she looks well placed to go one better. Mission Avenue and Catalina Fina also merit consideration.
He has won four times at 1m. Won on his latest outing when 7-10fav at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month, beating King's Leap. In fine form and that could continue.
He has won four times at 1m. Won on his latest outing when 7-10fav at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month, beating King's Leap. In fine form and that could continue.
He has won four times at 7f. Finished 2 3/4l behind dead-heaters Scaramanga and G Munning when fifth of 8 at 6-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Can go well.
He has won four times at 7f. Finished 2 3/4l behind dead-heaters Scaramanga and G Munning when fifth of 8 at 6-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Can go well.
He has won four times from 6f to 1m. A winner at 14-5 at Finger Lakes over 1m on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Skyler's Starship by 1l. Likely to be on the premises.
He has won four times from 6f to 1m. A winner at 14-5 at Finger Lakes over 1m on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Skyler's Starship by 1l. Likely to be on the premises.
He has won three times from 6f to 1m 1f. Beaten 7l behind dead-heaters Scaramanga and G Munning at 19-2 when seventh of 8 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. He has a bit to find.
He has won three times from 6f to 1m 1f. Beaten 7l behind dead-heaters Scaramanga and G Munning at 19-2 when seventh of 8 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. He has a bit to find.
He has won three times from 6f to 1m. A winner at 5-1 at Finger Lakes over 1m on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Sox For Daughters. Could land a blow.
He has won three times from 6f to 1m. A winner at 5-1 at Finger Lakes over 1m on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Sox For Daughters. Could land a blow.
SORORITY PRANK successfully completed the hat-trick over C&D and could continue his brilliant form. Hey Toby went in by a length here last time and looks the main danger. Drinking Solo is next best.
Placed once in five starts. Third of 8 behind Chicazteca beaten 3l at 7-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. One to consider.
Placed once in five starts. Third of 8 behind Chicazteca beaten 3l at 7-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. One to consider.
Half-sister to Sainte Chapelle, won at 1m. Pulled up behind Widdershins at 17-2 on her racecourse debut at Belmont At The Big A over 1m (good) last month. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Miguel Clement, but probably best watched for now.
Half-sister to Sainte Chapelle, won at 1m. Pulled up behind Widdershins at 17-2 on her racecourse debut at Belmont At The Big A over 1m (good) last month. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Miguel Clement, but probably best watched for now.
Yet to place in three starts. Well beaten at 22-1 behind Valued Dreamer when fifth of 6 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. She is wearing blinkers for the first time and taking a big drop in class. Interesting if the market signs are positive.
Yet to place in three starts. Well beaten at 22-1 behind Valued Dreamer when fifth of 6 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. She is wearing blinkers for the first time and taking a big drop in class. Interesting if the market signs are positive.
Placed once in ten starts. Finished 15l behind Cajunette when fifth of 7 at 40-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Disappointing lately but taking a small drop in grade.
Placed once in ten starts. Finished 15l behind Cajunette when fifth of 7 at 40-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Disappointing lately but taking a small drop in grade.
Placed once in six starts. Beaten 2 1/4l by Stella Brown when second of 5 at 8-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Every chance she can go one better.
Placed once in six starts. Beaten 2 1/4l by Stella Brown when second of 5 at 8-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Every chance she can go one better.
Half-sister to Sweet Shallots, won 16 times at 5f and 6f. Well beaten at 14-1 behind Goodys Girl when last of 10 on her racecourse debut at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) earlier this month. She is wearing blinkers for the first time looking for the improvement needed.
Half-sister to Sweet Shallots, won 16 times at 5f and 6f. Well beaten at 14-1 behind Goodys Girl when last of 10 on her racecourse debut at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) earlier this month. She is wearing blinkers for the first time looking for the improvement needed.
Unplaced in all five starts. Finished 7l behind Chicazteca when fifth of 8 at 17-4 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Held by Frisbee Bee on that form.
Unplaced in all five starts. Finished 7l behind Chicazteca when fifth of 8 at 17-4 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Held by Frisbee Bee on that form.
Slow Ready and Frisbee Bee have recent form to call upon, but a chance is taken on SWEET CAROL JAMES. Back down in class and wearing first-time blinkers, she may find the improvement needed.
Unplaced in all seven starts. Beaten 16l behind Deputy Tramon at 75-1 when last of 9 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month. Nothing recently suggests a win here.
Unplaced in all seven starts. Beaten 16l behind Deputy Tramon at 75-1 when last of 9 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month. Nothing recently suggests a win here.
Dam won twice at 1m. Beaten 13l behind Drive Thru at 15-1 when last of 9 on his racecourse debut at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. He might do better with that run under his belt.
Dam won twice at 1m. Beaten 13l behind Drive Thru at 15-1 when last of 9 on his racecourse debut at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. He might do better with that run under his belt.
Unplaced in both starts. Finished 18l behind Saratoga Weekend when last of 5 at 16-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. More to find to mount a challenge.
Unplaced in both starts. Finished 18l behind Saratoga Weekend when last of 5 at 16-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. More to find to mount a challenge.
Unplaced in all three starts. Finished 15l behind Back In The Saddle when fifth of 9 at 14-1 on his latest outing at Gulfstream over 1m (good) in April. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Joseph Orseno. Taking a big drop in company and trip.
Unplaced in all three starts. Finished 15l behind Back In The Saddle when fifth of 9 at 14-1 on his latest outing at Gulfstream over 1m (good) in April. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Joseph Orseno. Taking a big drop in company and trip.
Placed once in three starts. Third of 12 behind Vamonos Vamonos beaten 11l at 5-1 on his latest outing at Aqueduct over 6f in January. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Richard Dutrow Jr, and gelded since his last start. One for the shortlist.
Placed once in three starts. Third of 12 behind Vamonos Vamonos beaten 11l at 5-1 on his latest outing at Aqueduct over 6f in January. Having his first run for a new stable today, previously with Richard Dutrow Jr, and gelded since his last start. One for the shortlist.
Placed twice in seven starts. Finished behind Skippy Town when fourth of 6 at 22-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. One to take seriously.
Placed twice in seven starts. Finished behind Skippy Town when fourth of 6 at 22-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. One to take seriously.
Unplaced in all five starts. Finished 7l behind Raisuli when fifth of 8 at 13-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. Weaker opposition here, which may suit him better.
Unplaced in all five starts. Finished 7l behind Raisuli when fifth of 8 at 13-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. Weaker opposition here, which may suit him better.
Unplaced in all nine starts. Finished 20l behind Limits Of Power when fifth of 7 at 6-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Others appeal far more.
Unplaced in all nine starts. Finished 20l behind Limits Of Power when fifth of 7 at 6-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Others appeal far more.
Placed once in 11 starts. Beaten 6l behind Drive Thru at 16-1 when seventh of 9 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Not one to simply ignore.
Placed once in 11 starts. Beaten 6l behind Drive Thru at 16-1 when seventh of 9 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Not one to simply ignore.
Placed twice in six starts. Finished 11l behind Deputy Tramon when fifth of 9 at 13-8 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month. Held by Burning Munny on that form.
Placed twice in six starts. Finished 11l behind Deputy Tramon when fifth of 9 at 13-8 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f (good) last month. Held by Burning Munny on that form.
A tough race to call but if WHISKEY FRENS improves for a gelding operation, he could come home in front. Stimuli and Dracula lead the list of serious rivals.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Ma Mi Jo Dreams when fifth of 6 at 18-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. Two wins in better races in 2024 and entitled to do better after her first run of this year.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Ma Mi Jo Dreams when fifth of 6 at 18-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. Two wins in better races in 2024 and entitled to do better after her first run of this year.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 6 behind Light Thoughts beaten 4l at 9-2 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. 1lb worse off with runner-up Carol Said No, which makes her task harder.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 6 behind Light Thoughts beaten 4l at 9-2 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. 1lb worse off with runner-up Carol Said No, which makes her task harder.
Successful twice at 6f. Beaten 3l by Light Thoughts when second of 6 at 14-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Ilkay Kantarmaci, and one to consider if she has a better start.
Successful twice at 6f. Beaten 3l by Light Thoughts when second of 6 at 14-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Ilkay Kantarmaci, and one to consider if she has a better start.
Successful at 5f and 6f. A winner at 17-2 at Finger Lakes over 6f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Frannie Lew by 3l. A repeat could be enough.
Successful at 5f and 6f. A winner at 17-2 at Finger Lakes over 6f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Frannie Lew by 3l. A repeat could be enough.
Successful twice at 1m. A winner at 5-2 at Finger Lakes over 1m on her latest outing in September last year, beating Maize Loved Laffy. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Orlando Noda. Taking a drop in class makes her a player.
Successful twice at 1m. A winner at 5-2 at Finger Lakes over 1m on her latest outing in September last year, beating Maize Loved Laffy. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Orlando Noda. Taking a drop in class makes her a player.
Successful at 6f and 7f. A winner at 19-10 at Finger Lakes over 6f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Zhen Lou by a head. Interesting but others are preferred.
Successful at 6f and 7f. A winner at 19-10 at Finger Lakes over 6f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Zhen Lou by a head. Interesting but others are preferred.
Successful at 5f and 6f. A winner at 25-1 at Finger Lakes over 5f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Pesadilla Chanel by a head. Expected to be finishing fast and late.
Successful at 5f and 6f. A winner at 25-1 at Finger Lakes over 5f on her latest outing earlier this month, beating Pesadilla Chanel by a head. Expected to be finishing fast and late.
Successful at 1m and 1m 1f. Finished 10l behind Diamonds For Lily when last of 6 at 5-1 on her latest outing at Gulfstream over 1m in April. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Lauren Robson, but the trip may find her out.
Successful at 1m and 1m 1f. Finished 10l behind Diamonds For Lily when last of 6 at 5-1 on her latest outing at Gulfstream over 1m in April. Having her first run for a new stable today, previously with Lauren Robson, but the trip may find her out.
Successful twice at 1m. Beaten by Intentious when second of 7 at 16-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m in November last year. She may prove better over further and has a layoff to overcome.
Successful twice at 1m. Beaten by Intentious when second of 7 at 16-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m in November last year. She may prove better over further and has a layoff to overcome.
Red Butterfly is hard to ignore on her better 2024 form, but the down-in-grade Ten Ten and NURSE BUNNY have stronger claims. The latter was an easy winner last time and arrives at the top of her game.
Successful twice at 6f. Won on his latest outing when 21-20fav at Finger Lakes over 6f last month, beating Rockinmoney by 3/4l. Has strong claims in this lower grade.
Successful twice at 6f. Won on his latest outing when 21-20fav at Finger Lakes over 6f last month, beating Rockinmoney by 3/4l. Has strong claims in this lower grade.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Monomoy Beach when fourth of 6 at 9-2 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Much more needed.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Monomoy Beach when fourth of 6 at 9-2 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Much more needed.
He has won three times at 6f. Finished 18l behind Bobby The Tank when fifth of 6 at 25-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Difficult to recommend.
He has won three times at 6f. Finished 18l behind Bobby The Tank when fifth of 6 at 25-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Difficult to recommend.
Successful at 6f and 7f. Beaten 1 1/4l by Coin Jar when second of 7 at 10-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Could be thereabouts once again.
Successful at 6f and 7f. Beaten 1 1/4l by Coin Jar when second of 7 at 10-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Could be thereabouts once again.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 6 behind Enticing Prospect beaten at 2-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. One to consider.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 6 behind Enticing Prospect beaten at 2-1 on his latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f last month. One to consider.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Vettriano when fifth of 6 at 15-1 on his latest outing at Belmont At The Big A over 6f in October last year. Having his first run for a new stable and could feature if retaining all of his ability.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Finished behind Vettriano when fifth of 6 at 15-1 on his latest outing at Belmont At The Big A over 6f in October last year. Having his first run for a new stable and could feature if retaining all of his ability.
Successful at 5f and 1m. A winner at 10-1 at Finger Lakes over 5f on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Seventh Race Shake by a neck. Usually in the mix at this level.
Successful at 5f and 1m. A winner at 10-1 at Finger Lakes over 5f on his latest outing earlier this month, beating Seventh Race Shake by a neck. Usually in the mix at this level.
Successful at 6f and 1m. A winner at 14-5 at Finger Lakes over 6f on his latest outing last month, beating Paint The Line by a neck. Looks his yard's second string behind Arl's Magic.
Successful at 6f and 1m. A winner at 14-5 at Finger Lakes over 6f on his latest outing last month, beating Paint The Line by a neck. Looks his yard's second string behind Arl's Magic.
ARI'S MAGIC won an allowance race here last month and a similar effort will likely prove good enough in this lesser company. Big Prankster and Bustino Santino also merit consideration.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 5 behind Mind Of Gold beaten 4l at 17-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Others are more persuasive.
Successful at 5f and 6f. Third of 5 behind Mind Of Gold beaten 4l at 17-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 6f earlier this month. Others are more persuasive.
Successful twice at 5f. Beaten 19l behind She's A Freud at 15-2 when last of 8 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 4f in April. Not the most reliable and others preferred.
Successful twice at 5f. Beaten 19l behind She's A Freud at 15-2 when last of 8 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 4f in April. Not the most reliable and others preferred.
Successful twice at 4f, but last win was over four years ago. Finished 17l behind Trivia when fourth of 6 at 50-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Looks up against it.
Successful twice at 4f, but last win was over four years ago. Finished 17l behind Trivia when fourth of 6 at 50-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f last month. Looks up against it.
Successful twice at 5f. Finished behind Imalottalady when fifth of 7 at 14-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Not at her best of late.
Successful twice at 5f. Finished behind Imalottalady when fifth of 7 at 14-5 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Not at her best of late.
Successful at 4f and 5f. Finished 4 1/2l behind Light Thoughts when fourth of 6 at 13-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Could make her presence felt.
Successful at 4f and 5f. Finished 4 1/2l behind Light Thoughts when fourth of 6 at 13-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Could make her presence felt.
Successful at 5f and 7f. Third of 7 behind Imalottalady beaten at 9-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. More needed to come out best.
Successful at 5f and 7f. Third of 7 behind Imalottalady beaten at 9-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. More needed to come out best.
Successful twice at 1m. Finished behind Turnupthemusic when fourth of 7 at 6-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. Has solid claims.
Successful twice at 1m. Finished behind Turnupthemusic when fourth of 7 at 6-5fav on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 1m earlier this month. Has solid claims.
Successful twice at 5f. Won on her latest outing when 5-6fav at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month, beating Artemis Girl by 6l. A leading contender.
Successful twice at 5f. Won on her latest outing when 5-6fav at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month, beating Artemis Girl by 6l. A leading contender.
Successful at 6f and 1m. Third of 7 behind Forty Smooth beaten at 15-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Likely to find a few too good.
Successful at 6f and 1m. Third of 7 behind Forty Smooth beaten at 15-1 on her latest outing at Finger Lakes over 5f earlier this month. Likely to find a few too good.
CUPRITE is making rapid strides and could prove hard to beat after bolting up here last time. My Royal Vow and Island Ride may fight it out for the minor honours.
